I guess Ron Paul publicly stating that he is not and disavowing all relationship with the people that wrote that crap doesn’t count in your opinion…
You, my friend, have not proved that he is either. I’m not really sure how one concludes that by standing for individual freedom and liberty and property rights for ALL people makes one a white supremacist. I guess a lobotomy would probably do it.
James Madison: “[The government] ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority.” Alexander Hamilton: “The people, sir, are a great beast.” The founding fathers who wrote the constitution were opposed to the people. They wished to curtail democracy and constructed the Constitution to preserve elite interests. Jefferson was a rare exception. This is very basic U.S. history 101.
Thus, if “racism” = “promoting diversity” then Ron Paul is not a racist. But if racism = the disgusting vulgarities found in the Ron Paul newsletters (which Paul defended in that issue of “Houston Chronicle while SIMULTANEOUSLY claiming he was not a racist) then Ron Paul is most certainly a racist. I have already listed the tons of facts connecting him to white supremacy. You have not refuted a single one of them because you obviously cannot.
Uh… you are aware that that paragraph comes from an essay written in defense of Don Imus and that it’s an almost word for word repetition of his 2002 article in defense of white supremacist Trent Lott? Here Paul is defining “racism” as “promoting diversity.” There is a term for this: Newspeak. Thus, his statement only supports the fact that is a white supremacist. The 05/23/96 edition of the “Houston Chronicle” has Paul denying he is a racist and then DEFENDING his racist newsletter articles!
You are clearly an uninformed person. These issues have been raised and promptly dismissed. If you actually took time to understand why he voted against the acts you mention you would realize it is not because he is racist but because he believe in personal freedom and liberty for EVERYONE!
No, I’m not confused at all. The quote from Ron Paul was meant to be posted as a response to Xenu’s assertion that Ron Paul is a white supremacist. I accidentally posted it as a new comment. And I do realize that Chomsky and Paul are quite different from one another. That’s why I consider what they both (and others) have to say. The truth is neither at one extreme nor the other… it’s somewhere in the middle. I don’t agree with everything that they have to say. I have a great respect for both.
Additionally, I would disagree with your comments on “collectivism.” Capitalist thinkers quite naturally oppose evaluation of groups because the results are unacceptable to their defense of extreme individualism and the supremacy of “property rights”, mainly due to the fact that sociological study lends credence to class-based models of social stratification and the carcinogenic effect of economic power residing in the hands of a concentrated group.
jharmon is obviously confused somewhat on this issue. If you read a bit more Chomsky I think you will come to see that his opinions and analysis are sharply divergent from Mr. Paul’s. In particular, Chomsky regards Murray Rothbard, Hayek, Mises, ect as “advocates of extreme tyranny.”
“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans as members of groups rather than individuals… By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist… we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.
Ron Paul
Check out some of his speeches
The founding father were all nut bags. They were all slave owning, rich, white men who cried for “freedom” (for themselves). I mean the majority of them openly wrote how they hate the people and that the people should not hold the power, but the rich landowners should. It sounds pathetic to me.
And the good things were have (voting rights, civil rights, etc) did not come from some stupid paper, but it came for poor people from below. That paper means nothing.
If being a constitutionalist makes one a lunatic then all our founders were nut bags. I guess I’m crazy too because I think the IRS is unconstitutional and I like silly things like property rights, civil rights, voting rights, sound money, fiscal responsibility, state sovereignty, small and not intrusive federal government… you know things like that. By the way have you read the constitution?
Are you familiar with his racist, conspiracist, anti-Semitic, homophobic newsletter? The newsletter went out under his name, with his permission, with his signature, written in the first person, published by his friend Mark Elam’s company M&M Graphics and Advertising. Or his opposition to the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act? Or that racist Lew Rockwell’s hate-filled website received Ron Paul’s first Freedom Website Award?
Ron Paul is not a white supremacist. I challenge you to prove that he is. He’s one of very few politicians who is looking out for common people… regardless of their color. If you follow him at all it’s pretty obvious that he’s sincere.
Polyarchy! True! Big corporate business owns the sock-puppets like Bush and Obama! Nothing new!Ron Paul should have served at least 2 terms by now! Says alot about this so-called Democracy bullshit!
I guess Ron Paul publicly stating that he is not and disavowing all relationship with the people that wrote that crap doesn’t count in your opinion…
You, my friend, have not proved that he is either. I’m not really sure how one concludes that by standing for individual freedom and liberty and property rights for ALL people makes one a white supremacist. I guess a lobotomy would probably do it.
James Madison: “[The government] ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority.” Alexander Hamilton: “The people, sir, are a great beast.” The founding fathers who wrote the constitution were opposed to the people. They wished to curtail democracy and constructed the Constitution to preserve elite interests. Jefferson was a rare exception. This is very basic U.S. history 101.
Thus, if “racism” = “promoting diversity” then Ron Paul is not a racist. But if racism = the disgusting vulgarities found in the Ron Paul newsletters (which Paul defended in that issue of “Houston Chronicle while SIMULTANEOUSLY claiming he was not a racist) then Ron Paul is most certainly a racist. I have already listed the tons of facts connecting him to white supremacy. You have not refuted a single one of them because you obviously cannot.
Uh… you are aware that that paragraph comes from an essay written in defense of Don Imus and that it’s an almost word for word repetition of his 2002 article in defense of white supremacist Trent Lott? Here Paul is defining “racism” as “promoting diversity.” There is a term for this: Newspeak. Thus, his statement only supports the fact that is a white supremacist. The 05/23/96 edition of the “Houston Chronicle” has Paul denying he is a racist and then DEFENDING his racist newsletter articles!
Good job completely avoiding or attempting to refute any of those facts. Ron Paul is a white supremacist.
You are clearly an uninformed person. These issues have been raised and promptly dismissed. If you actually took time to understand why he voted against the acts you mention you would realize it is not because he is racist but because he believe in personal freedom and liberty for EVERYONE!
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No, I’m not confused at all. The quote from Ron Paul was meant to be posted as a response to Xenu’s assertion that Ron Paul is a white supremacist. I accidentally posted it as a new comment. And I do realize that Chomsky and Paul are quite different from one another. That’s why I consider what they both (and others) have to say. The truth is neither at one extreme nor the other… it’s somewhere in the middle. I don’t agree with everything that they have to say. I have a great respect for both.
Additionally, I would disagree with your comments on “collectivism.” Capitalist thinkers quite naturally oppose evaluation of groups because the results are unacceptable to their defense of extreme individualism and the supremacy of “property rights”, mainly due to the fact that sociological study lends credence to class-based models of social stratification and the carcinogenic effect of economic power residing in the hands of a concentrated group.
jharmon is obviously confused somewhat on this issue. If you read a bit more Chomsky I think you will come to see that his opinions and analysis are sharply divergent from Mr. Paul’s. In particular, Chomsky regards Murray Rothbard, Hayek, Mises, ect as “advocates of extreme tyranny.”
They openly wrote about how much they hate people? That’s news to me. Could you please refer me to a source that might have some of these writings?
“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans as members of groups rather than individuals… By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist… we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.
Ron Paul
Check out some of his speeches
The founding father were all nut bags. They were all slave owning, rich, white men who cried for “freedom” (for themselves). I mean the majority of them openly wrote how they hate the people and that the people should not hold the power, but the rich landowners should. It sounds pathetic to me.
And the good things were have (voting rights, civil rights, etc) did not come from some stupid paper, but it came for poor people from below. That paper means nothing.
If being a constitutionalist makes one a lunatic then all our founders were nut bags. I guess I’m crazy too because I think the IRS is unconstitutional and I like silly things like property rights, civil rights, voting rights, sound money, fiscal responsibility, state sovereignty, small and not intrusive federal government… you know things like that. By the way have you read the constitution?
Are you familiar with his racist, conspiracist, anti-Semitic, homophobic newsletter? The newsletter went out under his name, with his permission, with his signature, written in the first person, published by his friend Mark Elam’s company M&M Graphics and Advertising. Or his opposition to the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act? Or that racist Lew Rockwell’s hate-filled website received Ron Paul’s first Freedom Website Award?
Ron Paul is not a white supremacist. I challenge you to prove that he is. He’s one of very few politicians who is looking out for common people… regardless of their color. If you follow him at all it’s pretty obvious that he’s sincere.
Ron Paul is a white supremacist.
Ron Paul is just as anti-democratic as Obama and McCain. He is a far-right lunatic.
Paul is a conjob
Polyarchy! True! Big corporate business owns the sock-puppets like Bush and Obama! Nothing new!Ron Paul should have served at least 2 terms by now! Says alot about this so-called Democracy bullshit!